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Iowa results -- what's next?


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Well the two guys who weren't supposed to win scored victories in Iowa this week. Anyone have any predictions for New Hampshire?


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Obama's speech last night...

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Obama's speech last night was top notch. It's only Iowa, and it's very early, but I think Hillary's goose is cooked. She came off as the same-old, same-old politician. Nothing new. Nothing has changed for her. She's the opposite of a breath of fresh air. She's the old guard and she's too polarizing.

I was watching MSNBC and the pundits were debating. Finally, one guy says, "When you people going to realize Obama is a phenomenon." I agree. Not only do I think he'll topple Hillary, but he will be the next president of the U.S.

He's got my vote all the way. The Dems doubled the Republicans in voter turnout in Iowa, which, to me, shows how much change is desired in this country. Obama has the under-35 vote so energized. It's showed in every exit poll. Hilliary may win New Hampshire, but so what. She'll never win South Carolina and other southern/western states.

Obama will not only win the Presidency, he will win it in a landslide. Next November, you can come back to this thred and you will see I called it here first.

Obama will crush Rudy G in the bid for the White House. Huckabee won't sustain.

Obama is the only candidate in this election that has me remotley interested in that sham that is our political system.

 

 


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 4, 2008 - 12:47pm.

Bold prediction but I think...

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Bold prediction but I think you are wrong. Obama is significantly underqualified. He hasn't even finished one term in the US Senate and doesn't have the kind of executive experience that governors have. Thus, if you check recent history, senators don't win the presidency. His solutions for foreign policy in a post-911 world are naive and dangerous. Besides all of that, and I'm not proud to say it, the USA is not ready in too many places to elect a black president. I'm not saying that is right or good. Just true. Obama will not win.


Submitted by Savage Guy on January 4, 2008 - 4:17pm.

JFK was supposed to...

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JFK was supposed to "underqualified" too and too young as a first-term senator. He did just fine - he handled the Cuban Missle Crisis like a pro - until the powers-that-be conspired to whack him. Experience is overrated.

Look at the two morons in the White House right now and tell me what experience buys you. The voting public won't buy that inexperienced diversion, not after eight lying and cheating years of Bush/Cheney.

And Obama is half black and half white. Sure, many of the bigots in the world will see him as just black. But the younger voters - the ones who will be energized and will decide this election - won't see race and instead see hope, change and a breath of fresh. And that will be the difference.

Obama in 2008!!!!!


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 4, 2008 - 5:41pm.

JFK cheated on his wife...

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JFK cheated on his wife while in office just like Bill Clinton. I wouldn't be proud of comparing Obama to JFK. Morals count especially in a president. You can say what you want about the current administration, and they are by no means perfect, but they recognize the danger we face and are doing something about it unlike the Clinton approach which encouraged Bin Laden to try 9/11 because he saw us as weak by the way Clinton responded to the first trade center attack, and how we left with our tail between our legs (see "Black Hawk Down") in other conflicts and he (incorrectly) thought we would not respond with Bush as president.


Submitted by Savage Guy on January 4, 2008 - 6:00pm.

Well, you said it best, the...

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Well, you said it best, the current admininstration is by no means perfect.

The understatement of the last eight lying and cheating years.

And, of course, 9/11 is Clinton's fault becuase he didn't respond correctly. Geez, how did we miss that? 

Obama in 2008!

 


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 5, 2008 - 8:39am.

I'll correct myself. JFK...

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I'll correct myself. JFK was in his second term as senator when he ran for president.

However, he was still only 42 years old and nobody was ready for a bleeding heart, Irish Catholic from Massuchetts to take over White House at that time. He bucked that, as will Obama will buck being half-black in 2008!

Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_U.S._Presidents

Lots of data about presidents and they are viewed and ranked. Notice where JFK and Bush Jr stand when it comes to best presidents ever. Although do we really need polls and studies to see how Bush is ranked? My 2-year-old could figure it out.

 

 


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 5, 2008 - 9:51am.

It's typical for liberals to...

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It's typical for liberals to try to make this election about President Bush. Last I checked, he's not running for President in 2008.

History is always harshest when a president is still in office. JFK has been dead for over 40 years and his time in office has been mythologized by the left for all those years so his stature has naturally risen. 40 years from now, history will be kinder to President
Bush when it acknowledges that no terrorist attacks happened on American soil after 9/11 while Bush was in office and Iraq is celebrating its 40th anniversary of being a free country.

This election will be about which direction we go as a country on the war on terror, health care, gay marriage, abortion, the economy, gun control, etc. Is America ready to become like Canada and most of the countries in Europe and slip further in to socialism? I don't think so but time will tell.


Submitted by Savage Guy on January 5, 2008 - 10:53am.

You do have a point about...

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You do have a point about "liberals" trying make this election about Bush.

Back in 2000, I can't recall one time when Bush and his campaign strategists didn't make that election about Clinton (no longer running for president) and moral character in the democratic party. Was that even brought up? Bush didn't use that at all did he? Never once. Monica who? I mean, Bush really stayed away from the past and focused on the future.

 

 

 


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 5, 2008 - 5:58pm.

Minnesota's caucuses have...

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Minnesota's caucuses have been moved up to Feb. 5. Maybe you two should partripate. The Minnesota Secretary of State will be providing a location finder on its web site in the next few weeks.


Submitted by Nancy Huddleston on January 7, 2008 - 9:13am.

Drudge Report says epic...

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Drudge Report says epic Democratic turnout in New Hampshire. They've run out of ballots.

Could it be Obama mania?


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 8, 2008 - 12:39pm.

The best way I heard the...

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The best way I heard the Obama campaign summed up was in a recent issue of Rolling Stone. The supporters were described as hopeful and the writer said that the rallies were devoid of the typical anti-republican venom. I don't know if it's too early to buy in to any one candidate but his message, somewhat vague as it is, supports change for the better. Obama's a charismatic speaker and he's growing on me because he isn't negative and has a message of communication and unification.


Submitted by bsorenson on January 8, 2008 - 1:22pm.

All the rules will be...

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All the rules will be broken this Election year, if the trend shown in Iowa and New Hampshire continue. I also think people want to break the political chain of Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush. So far, Obama is offering that, so voters are giving him their support right now.

As a side note -- what about John Edwards? Has anyone else noticed that the poor man has been virtually ignored by the national media? He finished second in Iowa and there has been nothing more than a sound bite about it. I find that rather odd...

 


Submitted by Nancy Huddleston on January 8, 2008 - 3:00pm.

Edwards wants to be...

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Edwards wants to be somewhat ignored at this point. He knows Clinton's goose is cooked or will be cooked.

Edwards knows he can't stop Obama mania. So he's going to sit back, try not get to sucked down the drain and, if the Obama train derails, he'll be there at the train station with a sign reading - "Hey, I'm still available."

That's Edwards' only hope right now.

And yes, Edwards has been ignored to a degree. But what about Bill Richardson? He's invisible even at the debates. I think the moderators think he's a bus boy or something.


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 8, 2008 - 3:21pm.

So long Edwards. It was a...

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So long Edwards. It was a nice run, but it's over for you now.


Submitted by Tom Schardin on January 8, 2008 - 10:06pm.

I don't think Edwards is...

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I don't think Edwards is finished by any means. He would be remiss to drop out at this point.

Like it or not, the truth is that Edwards is the only serious contender for the Democratic nomination that looks like what American voters have sent to the White House for the last 230 years. (The Republicans aren't putting up any minority candidates for voter consideration)

Don't get me wrong- I love the idea that Americans could turn their backs a long and storied history of racism and sexism and vote a woman or an African American into the highest office in the land, but we've yet to see any evidence of that even at the Vice Presidential level.


Submitted by Miss Mollee on January 9, 2008 - 2:57pm.

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