Savage Pacer - Local caucus turnout breaks records - Comments

Well, some of the richest

Nancy Huddleston — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:59:37 -0600

Well, some of the richest people in the world work for free or for a low wage. If working hard was commensurate with your wages, then I think the world as we know it would be a very different place.

You're right about the agree

Savage Guy — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:57 -0600

You're right about the agree to disagree part. Political beliefs reflect who you are. Career choices reflect what you do. Therefore, I would argue that political beliefs are more personal than career choices and Tom's attack was more personal than mine.

Tom is your employee so I expect you to defend him, but I wonder how hard he and others are really working if they have time to dialogue with me as they do. Also, I notice that it is okay for him to refer to other people as "morons" in his writing on these blogs. I guess derogatory comments are okay for Pacer staff but not for Pacer readers?!?

Whatever the case, back to my "working hard" argument. The kind of working hard that I am talking about leads to promotions and higher paying jobs. You write that you have worked for dailies and weeklies. I daresay that the editor of the Strib makes more than you do. I daresay that a reporter for the Strib with comparable experience makes more than Tom does. Thus, when I write "if you work hard, you might get a job at a daily paper", that is my context.

I can understand your passion for weekly papers because you work for one. I think what you think of as working hard is perhaps different than what I think of as working hard. As you wrote, let's agree to disagree.

Well, we'll have to agree to

Nancy Huddleston — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:19:58 -0600

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
The difference I see with Tom's salvo and your salvo is that you lobbed yours at his career choice, thereby making it extremely personal. His salvo was aimed at your political beliefs. While I agree that both fall into the category of "personal opinions," I think that most people would be more offended by someone else's comment on their personal career choice; verses their political beliefs.
And, for the record, I'm not confused when it comes to who works harder. Look at the output of stories for a daily reporter verses weekly reporter. As well, dailies have copy editors, photographers, etc. At weeklies, we do all those roles. Plus we still have time to debate/bicker on line! I've personally worked at both a daily and weekly and I've worked hard for both. And I've hired many a reporter -- several who have come from daily experience -- who will testify that working for a weekly is harder than working for a daily. We all choose our career path by following where our heart tells us we should settle. I personally think the staff of the Savage Pacer serves this community very well and stand by that statement.
Breathe!

Nancy, debate is bickering.

Savage Guy — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:01:07 -0600

Nancy, debate is bickering. Bickering is debate. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I'm all for keeping it civil but I will respond when your staff dialogues with me and I will respond in kind. Notice if was Mr. Schardin who lobbied the Kennedy conspiracy salvo. I simply responded with a sarcasm of my own.

As to who works harder, you or the daily newspaper people, don't confuse busyness (i.e. working at night to cover the local news) with who works harder. Like it or not, a daily newspaper employee is farther up the newspaper food chain than a weekly newspaper person, so if a person wants to move up in the newspaper business, they would presumably "work hard" and therefore get jobs that are higher up the food chain.

Actually, reporters at

Nancy Huddleston — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:50:42 -0600

Actually, reporters at weekly newspapers work much harder than those at dailies. We are reporters, editors, copy editors and photographers. We spend many a night in meeting rooms and school gymnasiums, bringing our readers the news that daily papers are "too busy" to bother with. So, Savage Guy, while you say your remark was sarcastic, I must come to the defense of my staff when it comes to your "if youy work hard enough" comment. I agree that a vigorous debate is better than personal attacks, however, you did what you claimed you didn't want to to ... hurl an insult!
What's more, let's give that Kennedy conspiracy thing a rest, please! Good grief!
Now can we move past all the finger pointing on both sides here?
I think this debate illustrates what many voters are sick of -- 16 years of bickering amongst Democrats and Republicans. When Bill Clinton was in the White House, he couldn't do anything right and the same has held true with George W. Bush. I'm all for breaking the chain of the 20-year domination by two families on the U.S. Presidency. Let's hope we can have a choice of political candidates that will give us a break from business as usual in D.C. and allow us to move past the political bickering that has dominated this country for two decades.

I was responding to his

Savage Guy — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:41:44 -0600

I was responding to his sarcasm with a sarcastic remark. If you had read on, you would have seen that I noted I wasn't in it for the personal attacks but for the debate.

Why am I not surprised that

Mark Nesvig — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:12:55 -0600

Why am I not surprised that you chose to go the way of petty personal attacks?

Maybe if you work hard

Savage Guy — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:31:21 -0600

Maybe if you work hard enough, you can get a job at a daily paper!

Hurling insults is pretty easy for both of us. I can play that game but I would rather engage in vigorous debate.

Savage Guy, maybe if you

Tom Schardin — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:55:46 -0600

Savage Guy, maybe if you work hard enough, you get can the Clintons charged with Kennedy asasination.

Afterall, we all know it was a inside job, a government contract killing. Perhaps Bill was starting his evil-doer ways at the age of 17.

I'm sure you if dig hard enough you can find a link for all of us to read.

Read this story and watch

Savage Guy — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:53:49 -0600

Read this story and watch the video. This barbaric sub-human behavior is what we are fighting against. Some call it fear-mongering to talk about it. It is reality and when people are capable of this kind of inhumanity, we should be afraid and we should fight.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330810,00.html

Here is a story about one

Savage Guy — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:10:01 -0600

Here is a story about one key conservative who is throwing his support behind McCain.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120301527472569037.html?mod=hpp_us_whats...

Well, if Obama wins, I won't

Savage Guy — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:27:05 -0600

Well, if Obama wins, I won't promise to move out of the country like the Holywood liberals. By the way, did they ever move? If McCain wins like I think he will, I will celebrate.

We're not saying, or at

Savage Guy — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:21:34 -0600

We're not saying, or at least I'm not saying, that WMD were there. I'm saying we thought they were there and the "we" includes Democrats and Republicans. On the Democrat side, the "we" includes Clinton, Pelosi, Kerry and Gore among others. On the Republican side, it includes Bush, Cheney, Rice and Powell among others. Repeating that we thought that Iraq had WMD or was making WMD is simply stating the truth. It is not from a Republican handbook or any handbook. It is the truth.

It's tough to prosecute

Mark Nesvig — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:15:31 -0600

It's tough to prosecute someone when they destroy all the evidence and throw out sacrificial lambs like Scooter Libby to take the fall.

But this is good stuff. You keep insulting me and telling everyone how smart you are and how misinformed anyone who doesn't agree with you is. Again, can't wait until November. I wonder what you're going to do then.

I was referring to your

Mark Nesvig — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:12:33 -0600

I was referring to your constant regurgitation of the Republican handbook when it comes to the WMD that supposedly existed and supposedly posed a threat to the United States. Just because you and the Republicans keep saying they were/are there doesn't mean it's true.

Local caucus turnout breaks records

Keighla Schmidt — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:29:53 -0600

By Keighla Schmidt, Staff Writer

Savage residents turned out in record numbers Tuesday night (Feb. 5) to cast their ballots for presidential nominees, discuss politics and elect delegates.